£25 Annual WIFI Charge

The phone will still appear in the lap top's list of wifi signals, as will any other wifi signal that you have previously connected to.

But just because it's in the list, it doesn't mean the lap top can connect to it.

My i-Pad still shows the CC wifi in the list, but I can't connect to it from home.

Mine does not Ian. It might stay there for a few minutes after it becomes unavailable, but as soon as it searches for new options it disappears. It is the same with my MiFi, it only shows when it is switched on, as soon as I turn it off it is rapidly removed from the list.

not sure my iphone does either, however my pal's android unit displays a list of scores of recently used (known) wifi spots with all of them listed as 'out of range'...

a rescan might remove all these or not, depending on the design of the phone...

Been on to the nokkia/windows help pages and they confirm that internet sharing can use either a mobile internet signal or wifi

If you’re worried about people abusing your data plan, don’t be. If you yourself are connected to a WiFi access point, they’re not eating into your data allowance.
Read more at https://blogs.windows.com/devices/2012/09/25/internet-sharing-on-nokia-lumia/#dAZ1It8c3UloqckC.99

had a read and Corners has highlighted what appears to be a 'sharing' of a wifi signal.

however, the devices have to be 'joined' by wifi (bluetooth doesnt appear to be an option) so therefore the device requiring another source for its data HAS to use wifi, so why cant it just connect to the same wifi source as the 'routing' device?

if the sharing device didnt have wifi capability and used bluetooth to tether to the routing device i could see the usefulness, but as wifi seems mandatory to the connected device, why not just connect to the original source wifi signal?

im not doubting the 'technology' but am struggling with the requirement....

ps, ive just turned mobile data off of the iphone and the ipad tethering connection drops straight away.

Even on CC sites with reasonable WiFi, if away for an extended period, a MiFi or phone access to the internet is invaluable. I would not want to use online banking on the CC's unsecure network. It annoys me that there is no other way of paying the yearly £25 other than when on a CC site. I would be much happier arranging it from home on a more secure set up.

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Banking apps use an encryption system called https, which meets US military specifications. So the security of using a banking App is the same at home, as it is in a hotel, via 3G, or CC WiFi.

Even on CC sites with reasonable WiFi, if away for an extended period, a MiFi or phone access to the internet is invaluable. I would not want to use online banking on the CC's unsecure network. It annoys me that there is no other way of paying the yearly £25 other than when on a CC site. I would be much happier arranging it from home on a more secure set up.

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Banking apps use an encryption system called https, which meets US military specifications. So the security of using a banking App is the same at home, as it is in a hotel, via 3G, or CC WiFi.

If the security is the same, why do all the banks I have on line accounts with warn about using unsecure connections? 

had a read and Corners has highlighted what appears to be a 'sharing' of a wifi signal.

however, the devices have to be 'joined' by wifi (bluetooth doesnt appear to be an option) so therefore the device requiring another source for its data HAS to use wifi, so why cant it just connect to the same wifi source as the 'routing' device?

if the sharing device didnt have wifi capability and used bluetooth to tether to the routing device i could see the usefulness, but as wifi seems mandatory to the connected device, why not just connect to the original source wifi signal?

im not doubting the 'technology' but am struggling with the requirement....

ps, ive just turned mobile data off of the iphone and the ipad tethering connection drops straight away.

I assume what we are talking about is connecting more than one device to the CC WiFi by the back door, as it were. Otherwise the charge is another £25 if you want to have two devices connected simultaneously. Does not apply to CT though, you can have as many devices connected to that as you like, for free. Or I should probably say included in the fees, as somebody is paying.

.....sorry, Steve, i meant the technical requiremnt, not a sneaky customer's requirement....

ie...if the 2nd device has wifi (required to tether to the windows phone) why cant it connect to the source wifi in its own right?

because you are given a login when you've paid, if you try to log in to the site wifi again with its it tells you you are adready loged in

...Corners, i was thinking more why Microsoft had built the software that way, ie passing on a wifi signal when the 'receiving device' could as easily connect directly to the original wifi source as it could to the 'routed' signal..

not really thinking about how to 'get around' the CC system...

...still, thinking about it, it may be that one device has a far more powerful wifi receiver....?

If the security is the same, why do all the banks I have on line accounts with warn about using unsecure connections? 

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The security risk that they are referring to is the use of computers which are available to other people, who may have installed keyboard loggers etc to capture your input, including passwords before the message is encrypted. If your home computer, laptop etc has been hacked and a 'Trojan' installed, then that too is vulnerable to insecurity. But if your hardware is secure at home, then it's going to be similarly secure in your van. A weakness that may be exploited is the use of a wireless keyboard, where once again keystrokes can be monitored - a consideration when using auxiliary keyboards on pads.