Non EHU & enforced EHU

GarryP replied on 19/06/2017 15:46

Posted on 19/06/2017 15:46

The Sandringham National was EHU take it or leave it, I have spoken with several of my centre ralliers, and about 50% said they would have liked a choice, as most ralliers are geared up for off grid, many vans now come with solar panels, I for one would have preferred non EHU, certainly didn't use £ 5 worth of electric a day with only a 6 amp supply.

There were certainly not enough pitches this year, I heard several people complaining before and after the rally that they could not get a place, and walking around the site there appeared to be many unsused area, so I can only assume that the rally was setup around the available electric points and generators etc.

Could someone from the club confirm if all future nationals are going to be EHU only, and why this will be so, I personally consider this a bacwards step.

Events Committee replied on 07/07/2017 18:22

Posted on 07/07/2017 18:22

Thanks so much everyone for your comments and feedback which were considered at the last Events Committee meeting. The position of the committee with regard to your questions and concerns is provided below.

The Club was invited to Sandringham to run the 2017 National. This provided an amazing opportunity for members to visit the Royal Estate given that the last time a National was held there was 25 years ago. Although the venue was smaller than when previously visited, the Estate still provided us with sufficient land to increase our pitch provision by 12%. This continued a trend since 2012 that has produced a 12% growth in numbers attending the National. Moving forward to 2018 and 2019, our plans for the venues of choice provide continued growth in our capacity for increased numbers of members to attend the National.

Member feedback from the 2015 and 2016 Nationals demonstrated an overwhelming demand for EHU. The Club's Events Committee and staff endeavour to meet both the needs of members attending and the marshals involved in delivering the National. Therefore, given member demand, it was decided that for 2017 all pitches would be EHU. The number of pitches available at Sandringham was determined by the nature of the land made available to us and the type of activities on offer to members attending not the number of EHUs that the Club possesses.

We recognise members concerns about the impact of an event such as The National upon the environment. Given this, we are pleased to report that 100% of residual waste material from the event does not go to landfill but 67% is processed to be used as a fossil fuel alternative in power stations. In addition, 33% of all waste comprising wood, glass, paper/ card and metals is recycled. In line with the Club's approach to reducing its impact upon the environment we continue to explore ways to improve our performance in this area.

Following the 2017 National our survey of members who attended reaffirmed that most members wish to have EHU pitches, given this only EHU pitching will be available in 2018 at the National at Sledmere House.

Bookings for 2018 can be made later this year so keep an eye on camc.com/national for further details.

Thank you again for your feedback and we hope this has helped answer your questions.

Events Committee

brue replied on 07/07/2017 19:21

Posted on 07/07/2017 19:21

Thanks for your response. Disappointing for those of us who can manage very well without EHU and regard generators as an extra expense. I'll be sticking to non EHU rallies, in fact I'm on one now.

peedee replied on 08/07/2017 08:01

Posted on 08/07/2017 08:01

Thank you to the Events Committee for the comprenhensive reply, albeit disappointing for those of us who can manage perfectly well without EHU. It looks like, as with CT users some of us are in the minority.

peedee

DaveCyn replied on 08/07/2017 13:49

Posted on 08/07/2017 13:49

So it appears that in future all Nationals will be blighted by the noise & pollution of loads of generators running 24 hours a day.

There was me thinking that caravaning & motorhoming was about getting out & about in a nice environmentally friendly way.

Just how wrong is it possible to be?

trellis replied on 08/07/2017 17:40

Posted on 08/07/2017 17:40

Strange reply from the events committee ,on one hand they are waffling on about the club's approach to reducing the impact on the environment .On the other they are quite happy to penalise those members who wish to use environmentally friendly solar power .You can't have it both ways.

JVB66 replied on 08/07/2017 17:44

Posted on 08/07/2017 17:44

Its probably come about from member "feedback/surveys"??? the same as the new company launch in Febundecided

peedee replied on 09/07/2017 07:26

Posted on 08/07/2017 17:40 by trellis

Strange reply from the events committee ,on one hand they are waffling on about the club's approach to reducing the impact on the environment .On the other they are quite happy to penalise those members who wish to use environmentally friendly solar power .You can't have it both ways.

Posted on 09/07/2017 07:26

I was thinking the same trellis but it is about elitism more than anything else.

peedee

replied on 09/07/2017 07:44

Posted on 09/07/2017 07:44

I am not surprised at the overwhelming desire for EHU. I can see no good reason not to have a small percentage of pitches in a block without EHU.

brue replied on 09/07/2017 09:54

Posted on 08/07/2017 17:40 by trellis

Strange reply from the events committee ,on one hand they are waffling on about the club's approach to reducing the impact on the environment .On the other they are quite happy to penalise those members who wish to use environmentally friendly solar power .You can't have it both ways.

Posted on 09/07/2017 09:54

Spot on Trellis. It's also the snake oil principle, sell people something they don't need and make a fast buck. Either way the Club is also pandering to the industry producing high energy dependent vans.

GarryP replied on 09/07/2017 23:55

Posted on 09/07/2017 23:55

It is good to actually get a response to the intial post I made, still very dissapointed with the reply, however I can not see that leaving some non EHU pitches at the end of the rows for the apparent minority presents a problem, (as long as it is not the end where the generator sits), if the booking forms were in the original form and we had a choice, and as we all pre-book anyway then it would be known before the event how many wants the enviromental friendly non EHU.

I have been attending national rallies for 30 years and then as soon as I was able to afford a caravan with a solar panel fitted, the club overides us and enforce us with EHU's, whilst these survey's which incidently we never get a look at mentions an overwhelming need for 6amps, several members I have spoken to in my centre said they don't want it and if it putting the price up by £25 again they won't bother, so I don't really know what the percentage is and where this overwhelming majority comes from ?

All this guff about the environment and they chug away with generators ?

 

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