Increased risk of injury on a rally?

KevBailey replied on 15/07/2016 11:51

Posted on 15/07/2016 11:51

Segregation between vehicles and pedestrians has been identified as a key driver to reducing deaths in the work place, however  since the 6mtr rule has been enforced on rallies I’m seeing a lot more car movement between units due to the space (especially without awnings erected)

Has any other Centre noticed this?, are you concerned?, are you doing anything about it?

If 3mtrs between the rear of units is sufficient, why 6mtrs between caravan walls ?

I totally agree that we need to minimise risk by enforcing rules, however I’m really concerned that this 6mtr rule has created an even bigger risk to members safety when exiting caravan (especially with kids)

I have posted it on here to get people’s views, and depending on responses I am prepared to take this further with my local region and the club.

Fysherman replied on 15/07/2016 12:23

Posted on 15/07/2016 12:23

I thought it was 6m space all round?

That's what the other club insist upon (it's been years since we were on a CC rally)

I can see the sense in making "lanes" for car movement on the larger rallies.

Surfer replied on 15/07/2016 13:19

Posted on 15/07/2016 13:19

It makes you wonder about the 6m guidline on some rallies around village halls where the caravans are less than 3m apart and it is a CC rally?  At the next rally with the same organisation the 6m is probably strictly enforced!

Dave replied on 15/07/2016 13:22

Posted on 15/07/2016 13:22

Hi Kev,

if you allow space for an awning at 2.5m and a car parked next to the other caravan there isn't a lot of the 6m left. My disco is over 2m wide so I can understand the 6m between caravan walls.

I agree that it is a problem with vehicles driving between caravans and it seems to be getting worse more recently.

Centres need to put in place a policy of laying the vans out with designated vehicle routes (obviously larger gaps) and reinforcing there use to members.

I also agree that this would be worth discussing with your region and putting a proposal forward to the Club and other divisions and regions.

Dave

peegeenine replied on 15/07/2016 13:58

Posted on 15/07/2016 13:58

I have seen this and experienced this several times, even when roadways have been clearly defined. It's akin to people walking across your pitch to get to the toilet block on a CC site, but more dangerous. I think all that can be done is for the stewards/ marshalls to stress the point to members on arrival and put it on any information sheet that may be issued.

KevBailey replied on 15/07/2016 14:51

Posted on 15/07/2016 14:51

Hi Kev,

if you allow space for an awning at 2.5m and a car parked next to the other caravan there isn't a lot of the 6m left. My disco is over 2m wide so I can understand the 6m between caravan walls.

I agree that it is a problem with vehicles driving between caravans and it seems to be getting worse more recently.

Centres need to put in place a policy of laying the vans out with designated vehicle routes (obviously larger gaps) and reinforcing there use to members.

I also agree that this would be worth discussing with your region and putting a proposal forward to the Club and other divisions and regions.

Dave

Hi Dave

When you have awnings up, the problem goes away. It's on the smaller weekend rallies that you see the problems.

I understand at the CC national rally, the vans were parked back to back with a 3mtr gap which I can't get my head round ?? Again I would be interested in feedback on this.

At the moment, we can't even put windbreaks up in the 3mtr gap bridge the gap. 

Kennine replied on 15/07/2016 16:08

Posted on 15/07/2016 16:08

Safety concerns alone should ensure that there is a 6 meter gap in every direction from each caravan to it's nearest neighbour.  Perfectly straightforward and easy to implement. 

K

brue replied on 16/07/2016 11:03

Posted on 16/07/2016 11:03

We were at the National and the spacing seemed ok, closer at the rear but good gaps in between, quite well defined as per the rule book. There was very little vehicle movement considering the numbers involved. On smaller rallies I would hope the same attention is paid to spacing and safety, if not it's worth bringing it up for discussion regarding site safety.

ABM replied on 16/07/2016 13:03

Posted on 16/07/2016 13:03

I  suppose  all  units  at  rallies  could  be  supplied  with  one  of  those  nice  gizmos  that  thepolice  use  (on   tv  programmes anyway  )  that  puncture  the  'sinners'  tyres .

That  should  ensure  compiance  with  the  highest  of  standards  that  we  all  demand .

 

SteveL replied on 16/07/2016 13:12

Posted on 16/07/2016 13:12

We don't rally, but I thought the idea of them was for people to get together, in particular the children. If this is the case, then surely a parking area at the entrance to the rally, where you would have to take your car once the van was positioned, would remove any risk. 

brue replied on 16/07/2016 13:55

Posted on 16/07/2016 13:55

I haven't been on a rally yet where I felt concerned about vehicle movement but obviously the OP has experienced otherwise. The vehicle movement on rallies or speed is nothing like you'd see on a site. Generally there is more safe space for children but much depends on the actual rally site. Parents, as always, need to keep an eye on their children.

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