Caravan spacings on rallies

TJDale replied on 09/06/2016 07:39

Posted on 09/06/2016 07:39

Please can the Caravan Club give me a definative answer to the Caravan spacing issue. This obviously came to a head at the end of last year so we need to get it right.

 

As I understand it, there needs to be 6m between walls of outfits (I'm not talking awnings as we are running a new year rally on hard standing). I was also told though that this 6m allows space for a car as long as you maintain 3m between the car and the next caravan. We however, have the use of a car park so don't need to put cars between outfits. Can we park caravans 3m between walls and the cars elsewhere?

Kennine replied on 13/06/2016 16:23

Posted on 13/06/2016 16:23

Why dont you email head office with your questions about spacings when running a CC rally. They will be the people who know all the answers ---------- I'm sure you wil  get a speedy response . HappyHappyHappy

iffajobsworthdoing replied on 14/06/2016 16:56

Posted on 14/06/2016 16:56

3. Pitch Spacing. The Club places great importance on the correct layout of rallies to ensure that safety standards are maintained and that the requirements of the exemption certificate are met. Every effort should be made to keep the density as low as possible. _ _A minimum spacing between facing walls of adjacent motorhomes and caravans (the unit) of 6 metres is required. There must also be 3 metres clear between outfits, where an outfit is taken to mean and include the unit, an awning, pup tent and a car. An explanatory diagram is at Annex D. _There must also be __6 metres separation between the facing walls of a caravan or motorhome and a building; however, that 6 metres space could be used for a towing vehicle or awning so long as there is still 3 metres clear space within that 6 metres.__ _ Whilst there is no spacing restriction with regard to rally

field boundaries, e.g. fences, trees and hedges, the siting of outfits must not be allowed to interfere with the activities of local people, their privacy or enjoyment of their property. For health and safety purposes, emergency vehicles should also be able to secure access at all times to within 90 metres of any unit on the site. The layout of the rally site and the general appearance of outfits can impact on member satisfaction; moreover, overcrowding and low standards will harm the reputation of The Club and the Centre. 

Dave replied on 14/06/2016 17:18

Posted on 14/06/2016 17:18

Boff, I haven't checked the Natiural England website but it did used to be there. I'll have another look.

The club has sent guidelines to all the centre committees and regional councils so they will have them. A subset is available on the North Yorkshire Centre website

https://nycentre1.wordpress.com/about/rally-officer/

Andy, link activated Hope that's OK.

Dave

BrianJosie replied on 18/06/2016 20:08

Posted on 18/06/2016 20:08

Surely after all this debating is it isn't it ,the spacing of units be it caravans or motorhomes is plainly and simply common sense.

Brian & Jo

Navigateur replied on 18/06/2016 20:37

Posted on 18/06/2016 20:37

I had never heard of Natural England until I read this thread.  Sounds too like it is something to do with nudists.

mhparking replied on 19/06/2016 08:17

Posted on 19/06/2016 08:17

The standards for spacing arise from S5 of the Caravan Sites and Control of Development Act 1960. There are central government model standards for static sites on the National Archives web site but that appears to be because the legislation changed relatively recently. Model standards for touring sites were published in 1983 so have not been loaded centrally to the Internet but most councils publish their own versions, e.g. Eden Council on a link from this page.

As the standards are models they can be varied and they do only apply to licensed sites, not to CLs or rallies. Club rules (both CC and other clubs) govern spacing on CLs and rallies but tend to be based on the models in the absence of anything more appropriate.

Spacing (or lack of) at motorway services (and the motorhome "aire" at Canterbury for instance) is legal because the standards are only models, not binding requirements. Having said that, MSAs usually have a ban on the use of gas appliances anyway, especially in HGV areas where there may be hazardous loads.

Graham

Navigateur replied on 19/06/2016 11:40

Posted on 19/06/2016 11:40

If one unit (wherever sited/parked) starts a fire that spreads to damage other units or property there is a liability on its owner for damages, and also on any person/organisation that has control over how the vehicles were sited/parked. A possible defence to the latter is that they were arranged in accordance with best practice.  Which is the 6m!

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