Group bookings for non members

Brian Mascard replied on 28/05/2023 17:47

Posted on 28/05/2023 17:47

Just bought our first caravan and joined the CAMC club.

Back from our first trip away. We went to the CAMC site in Bognor Regis for 3 nights. The facilities on this site were clean and very good

Our first two nights were quiet and there were no problems, but the third night was a different affair. A group of more than 20 non members turned up and decided to spend the night in the awning next to our caravan. Kids bikes everywhere and I was concerned that my car was going to get damaged.

I lay awake until 1AM in the morning listening to the group talking and the Boom boom of their radio. I believe a number of people complained but I was not one of them because we do not know the rules. I was told this was a rare occurrence by other members of CAMC but I only have this one experience to go.

I have to ask the question CAMC, why would you let a large group of non member book onto the sight. Surely you are just asking for trouble.

Brian Mascard

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Rufs replied on 29/05/2023 18:24

Posted on 29/05/2023 18:24

"Overseas on the other hand it can happen quite often when all the family members and friends decide to join in and it goes on for days. "

Spain is nortorious for this, they come out to party at 22:00 hrs and are still at it at 0200 hrs, but that is the culture, i guess if you dont like it, dont go, or better still get involved, had some lovely Spanish parties and the paella is gorgeouslaughing

JollyKernow replied on 29/05/2023 19:49

Posted on 28/05/2023 17:47 by Brian Mascard

Just bought our first caravan and joined the CAMC club.

Back from our first trip away. We went to the CAMC site in Bognor Regis for 3 nights. The facilities on this site were clean and very good

Our first two nights were quiet and there were no problems, but the third night was a different affair. A group of more than 20 non members turned up and decided to spend the night in the awning next to our caravan. Kids bikes everywhere and I was concerned that my car was going to get damaged.

I lay awake until 1AM in the morning listening to the group talking and the Boom boom of their radio. I believe a number of people complained but I was not one of them because we do not know the rules. I was told this was a rare occurrence by other members of CAMC but I only have this one experience to go.

I have to ask the question CAMC, why would you let a large group of non member book onto the sight. Surely you are just asking for trouble.

Brian Mascard

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Posted on 29/05/2023 19:49

Could you give some more information please? You say 20 non members arrived next door. Were they visitors to that pitch or were there 20 outfits with non members pitched up? Visitors to the site are more than welcome but the member they are visiting is responsible for their guests behaviour. 

Why do you think accepting non members to a site is asking for trouble? We have a very wide range of society of members in the club, what's the difference if you've paid your £59 membership subs or not?

If a number of people complained then I'd expect the site staff to have acted in a suitable manner, if not then I'd further expect complaints to EGH followed by a visit from the regional manager. Part of our job as staff is to ensure the safety and wellbeing of our customers. It's never easy dealing with a late night crowd, especially if alcohol is involved and sometimes it's easier to have a quiet word then to wake people in the morning when their heads are pounding to give them the lowdown. Most of the time people forget that an awning isn't a brick wall and there usually isn't a repetition on another day.

It really isn't a regular thing.

JK

nelliethehooker replied on 29/05/2023 21:14

Posted on 29/05/2023 10:32 by eurortraveller

Brian, Sorry to read that you were unhappy. But honestly, look at the photo of that site. You don’t go there tor privacy. So choose carefully next time.

Posted on 29/05/2023 21:14

ET, as this was the OP's first visit to a club site now were they to know how relatively close units are parked? They may be used to those sort of sites where there is much more space between units. They are new to caravanning but may well have stayed on other sites in the past. 

vbfg replied on 30/05/2023 08:45

Posted on 29/05/2023 15:41 by DaveCyn

The simple answer as to why is money!

Don't forget non-members pay an extra £15 a night!

Posted on 30/05/2023 08:45

I suspect that many of them had not paid anything at all, as the Wardens are very unlikley to allow so many people onto just one pitch, regardless of how much extra they may have been paying.  It is easy to just turn up on a site as the Wardens cannot be watching everything that goes on, or know if everyone has paid a fee or not. 

EmilysDad replied on 30/05/2023 08:52

Posted on 30/05/2023 08:45 by vbfg

I suspect that many of them had not paid anything at all, as the Wardens are very unlikley to allow so many people onto just one pitch, regardless of how much extra they may have been paying.  It is easy to just turn up on a site as the Wardens cannot be watching everything that goes on, or know if everyone has paid a fee or not. 

Posted on 30/05/2023 08:52

 ....  It is easy to just turn up on a site as the Wardens cannot be watching everything that goes on, or know if everyone has paid a fee or not. 

Maybe the odd extra person turning up would go unnoticed, but I would imagine that on even a big site, the wardens would be savvy enough to know a large group are having a party at a pitch

vbfg replied on 30/05/2023 09:06

Posted on 29/05/2023 17:34 by

We have only once in 20 years left a site due to a large group  who arrived to use chalets and who we believe were a football team  and partners. It was most unfortunate as it was a lovely site but we could see the manager could do little with such a large group. However many sites have quite draconian rules about groups especially single sex and I cant see why the club cant adopt a similar approach. 

Posted on 30/05/2023 09:06

I have not really noticed many single sex groups on sites at all. I was pitched next to 2 very pleasant ladies from Nottingham, at Meathop last August, but most tourers appear to be couples and families and occasionally (like myself) single. My cousin and her husband caravanned for many years and after she died, her husband and dog, sometimes with grandchildren, still frequently toured.  One year he booked at a commercial site for 2 weeks which he had not visited before and shortly before he was due to go, he was contacted by the site to say that they did not allow single males on site!   It has not occurred since and I have never heard of any other sites which do so.

Arch replied on 30/05/2023 09:07

Posted on 29/05/2023 19:49 by JollyKernow

Could you give some more information please? You say 20 non members arrived next door. Were they visitors to that pitch or were there 20 outfits with non members pitched up? Visitors to the site are more than welcome but the member they are visiting is responsible for their guests behaviour. 

Why do you think accepting non members to a site is asking for trouble? We have a very wide range of society of members in the club, what's the difference if you've paid your £59 membership subs or not?

If a number of people complained then I'd expect the site staff to have acted in a suitable manner, if not then I'd further expect complaints to EGH followed by a visit from the regional manager. Part of our job as staff is to ensure the safety and wellbeing of our customers. It's never easy dealing with a late night crowd, especially if alcohol is involved and sometimes it's easier to have a quiet word then to wake people in the morning when their heads are pounding to give them the lowdown. Most of the time people forget that an awning isn't a brick wall and there usually isn't a repetition on another day.

It really isn't a regular thing.

JK

Posted on 30/05/2023 09:07

 JK if you're the guy that used to run the Marazion club site from my experience of you and staying there this situation would never have happened on your watch, you regularly walked the site, knew what was going on and would have quickly put an end to it without fuss.

JollyKernow replied on 30/05/2023 09:31

Posted on 30/05/2023 09:07 by Arch

 JK if you're the guy that used to run the Marazion club site from my experience of you and staying there this situation would never have happened on your watch, you regularly walked the site, knew what was going on and would have quickly put an end to it without fuss.

Posted on 30/05/2023 09:31

Not me Arch but we used to work together years agowink

JK

Goldie146 replied on 30/05/2023 11:59

Posted on 30/05/2023 11:59

As this was initially posted in the Story section it's likely that the OP won't come back to reply.

 

brue replied on 31/05/2023 08:04

Posted on 30/05/2023 11:59 by Goldie146

As this was initially posted in the Story section it's likely that the OP won't come back to reply.

 

Posted on 31/05/2023 08:04

Maybe this could be one of the CT "improvements" so that posters are made more aware of movements of their contributions? I know they get a note but it's not there for long. 

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