Auto tow cars

bazandwen replied on 26/04/2021 21:04

Posted on 26/04/2021 21:04

I am having a nightmare with our ford Kuga auto 2013 . new gear box after 20000 miles rear axel helix after 46000 miles and the drive has gone again either clutch or transmission if the later ford replacement is about 6000. !!!! are there any cars out there with standard auto gearbox's and not tiptronic type. any views and advice welcome need auto as easier for my wife to drive day to day. we are towing a coachman 575. 

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KeithL replied on 27/04/2021 18:01

Posted on 26/04/2021 21:04 by bazandwen

I am having a nightmare with our ford Kuga auto 2013 . new gear box after 20000 miles rear axel helix after 46000 miles and the drive has gone again either clutch or transmission if the later ford replacement is about 6000. !!!! are there any cars out there with standard auto gearbox's and not tiptronic type. any views and advice welcome need auto as easier for my wife to drive day to day. we are towing a coachman 575. 

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Posted on 27/04/2021 18:01

I've towed with autos for many years but you always have to be careful to establish if any additional gearbox cooling is necessary. I had a Ford Scorpio nuke its gearbox on me years ago because it overheated when towing so I watch it very carefully now. Coooling changes seem less critical in newer cars but don't know if that's because the stock gearbox cooling is better or because manufacturers care even less about towers these days than they used to.  

EmilysDad replied on 27/04/2021 18:11

Posted on 27/04/2021 17:49 by commeyras

I have driven and towed with VW DSG cars since 2009 (a Passat and 2 x Tiguans) and never had any trouble.   I have towed all over Europe, over the Alps and as far as Croatia.  The OP has been very unlucky!

Posted on 27/04/2021 18:11

or .... you were very lucky 😉

viatorem replied on 27/04/2021 22:39

Posted on 27/04/2021 22:39

Torque converter slush box's were the old 3/4 speed ones that didn't lock up, later ones locked up in top gear only. New 7-10 speed TC box's only use the torque converter to start off then use a type of clutch to lock into each gear. This generates less heat in the fluid unless speed, load or incline prevent lock up. TCs have an advantage when towing, they amplify torque from start off. 

EmilysDad replied on 27/04/2021 23:36

Posted on 27/04/2021 22:39 by viatorem

Torque converter slush box's were the old 3/4 speed ones that didn't lock up, later ones locked up in top gear only. New 7-10 speed TC box's only use the torque converter to start off then use a type of clutch to lock into each gear. This generates less heat in the fluid unless speed, load or incline prevent lock up. TCs have an advantage when towing, they amplify torque from start off. 

Posted on 27/04/2021 23:36

My Senator's & Omega's auto boxes were 3 speed boxes with a 4th gear bolted to the side .... they locked up in 3rd & 4th. 😉 No idea at all about the 7 speed in my Merc though 😎

geoffeales replied on 28/04/2021 12:33

Posted on 28/04/2021 12:33

have you checked the CAMH matching app? I only ask because as an owner of a VIP and knowing the weight of Coachman in general, I wonder if the 575 is too heavy for a Kuga, which is only regarded as a "light SUV"? That could certainly cause premature wear on your transmission. I agree with most above comments that the "slush box" is always the best auto option. 

watto64 replied on 12/05/2021 17:43

Posted on 12/05/2021 17:43

I've been thinking of changing our 2017 santa fe t/c auto. Unfortunately the new SF and Kia Sorrento are DCT gearboxes so basically have clutch plates.

We also have a Kona GT which as  DCT gearbox and you can tell the difference between the two types. The handbook advises not to crawl in traffic or try to hold on a hill and reverse is very sharp to engage, it even as a transmission overheat protection warning, this has put me off hyundai or Kia now as tow cars for heavy caravans.

EmilysDad replied on 12/05/2021 22:26

Posted on 12/05/2021 17:43 by watto64

I've been thinking of changing our 2017 santa fe t/c auto. Unfortunately the new SF and Kia Sorrento are DCT gearboxes so basically have clutch plates.

We also have a Kona GT which as  DCT gearbox and you can tell the difference between the two types. The handbook advises not to crawl in traffic or try to hold on a hill and reverse is very sharp to engage, it even as a transmission overheat protection warning, this has put me off hyundai or Kia now as tow cars for heavy caravans.

Posted on 12/05/2021 22:26

Buy a big Merc 😉😉

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