Car towing capability

Manjvan18 replied on 19/07/2018 19:27

Posted on 19/07/2018 19:27

Hello everyone, we are new and looking for some advice which I apologise if being asked before.

We recently purchased our 1st Caravan and when we spoke to the dealer about Car Vs Caravan suitability, he advised my car would be more than adequate for towing the caravan we were looking at.

So, I have a Jaguar XE R-Sport with a kerb weight of 1450kg.  The towing weight capability is 1800kg and the Caravan MTPLM is 1595kg. 

When we collected the caravan, the car handled as expected and pulled really well.  Also felt stable on the road and motorway.

I guess my question is here, is the ratio car vs caravan actually ok?

 

Best Regards

Mike & Anj

Lutz replied on 20/07/2018 13:25

Posted on 20/07/2018 11:26 by lornalou1

that doesn't mean it's safe to tow at the max weight. my grand Cherokee will pull 3500kg but I would never do so as its the stopping not the going that's the problem.

Posted on 20/07/2018 13:25

The trailer has brakes that should be perfectly capable of stopping it of its own accord without much assistance from the towcar other than to actuate the overrun.

flatcoat replied on 20/07/2018 21:22

Posted on 20/07/2018 21:22

When you collected your van it was presumably empty so probably towing about 1400-1450kg. I am extremely surprised the dealer did not advise that you might be towing over 100% and give you a print out with the specific towing info for your outfit. Whilst I do not get hung up on the 85% recommendation You may find your insurance does have a limit of 100%. Sur les incontinents they simply tow within the law and would not be remotely concerned with this set up.

Lutz replied on 21/07/2018 07:43

Posted on 20/07/2018 21:22 by flatcoat

When you collected your van it was presumably empty so probably towing about 1400-1450kg. I am extremely surprised the dealer did not advise that you might be towing over 100% and give you a print out with the specific towing info for your outfit. Whilst I do not get hung up on the 85% recommendation You may find your insurance does have a limit of 100%. Sur les incontinents they simply tow within the law and would not be remotely concerned with this set up.

Posted on 21/07/2018 07:43

In case the 100% limit is a condition of the insurance, I wonder how they can enforce it considering kerbweight is not documented anywhere. How would they prove that the outfit is over 100% (unless it's blatantly obvious, of course)?

replied on 21/07/2018 07:48

Posted on 21/07/2018 07:48

If the OP is concerned and already has the car the simplest is simply a trip to local weighbridge. 

flatcoat replied on 21/07/2018 11:26

Posted on 21/07/2018 11:26

Lutz, I have wondered the same myself however a number of forum members have referred to such conditions in their insurance when similar discussions have previously taken place. I personally choose not to go above 100% and currently tow at 94% (previous out fit was 97%) but given what I see abroad (and sometimes in the UK) and As we have agreed before, the weight ratio is but one of many factors to consider with towing safely.

millielou replied on 30/07/2018 09:27

Posted on 30/07/2018 09:27

Wise words from easy T caravanner, we recently, two weeks ago did ours at a public weigh bridge and it only cost £10. Also good idea to do car and caravan together, also £10. Not really a good idea to get too close to 100% either particularly whilst you are inexperienced with towing.

replied on 30/07/2018 10:04

Posted on 21/07/2018 07:43 by Lutz

In case the 100% limit is a condition of the insurance, I wonder how they can enforce it considering kerbweight is not documented anywhere. How would they prove that the outfit is over 100% (unless it's blatantly obvious, of course)?

Posted on 30/07/2018 10:04

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Amesford replied on 30/07/2018 10:53

Posted on 19/07/2018 19:27 by Manjvan18

Hello everyone, we are new and looking for some advice which I apologise if being asked before.

We recently purchased our 1st Caravan and when we spoke to the dealer about Car Vs Caravan suitability, he advised my car would be more than adequate for towing the caravan we were looking at.

So, I have a Jaguar XE R-Sport with a kerb weight of 1450kg.  The towing weight capability is 1800kg and the Caravan MTPLM is 1595kg. 

When we collected the caravan, the car handled as expected and pulled really well.  Also felt stable on the road and motorway.

I guess my question is here, is the ratio car vs caravan actually ok?

 

Best Regards

Mike & Anj

Posted on 30/07/2018 10:53

Its amazing how many people and dealers get mixed up with this, my understanding is you can tow a caravan up to 100% of your cars kerb wait (but NOT recomened) according to your figures your car can PULL 1800kgs but not TOW 1800kgs that is due to the cars kerb weight . its a pity the clubs on line matching service is not any good when I put in the data for a car we were looking at buying 16 months ago it had a kerb weight of 0 kgs !!! we did buy it the end not because the dealer told it was ok because we sat down and crunched the numbers ourselves.

Lutz replied on 30/07/2018 14:37

Posted on 30/07/2018 10:53 by Amesford

Its amazing how many people and dealers get mixed up with this, my understanding is you can tow a caravan up to 100% of your cars kerb wait (but NOT recomened) according to your figures your car can PULL 1800kgs but not TOW 1800kgs that is due to the cars kerb weight . its a pity the clubs on line matching service is not any good when I put in the data for a car we were looking at buying 16 months ago it had a kerb weight of 0 kgs !!! we did buy it the end not because the dealer told it was ok because we sat down and crunched the numbers ourselves.

Posted on 30/07/2018 14:37

There's nothing to stop anyone from towing with a weight ratio of over 100% so long as none of the plated weight limits are exceeded (other than some UK insurance companies that for reasons best known to themselves apparently stipulate a 100% limit). However, whether it's wise to is another story.

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