Car towing capability

Manjvan18 replied on 19/07/2018 19:27

Posted on 19/07/2018 19:27

Hello everyone, we are new and looking for some advice which I apologise if being asked before.

We recently purchased our 1st Caravan and when we spoke to the dealer about Car Vs Caravan suitability, he advised my car would be more than adequate for towing the caravan we were looking at.

So, I have a Jaguar XE R-Sport with a kerb weight of 1450kg.  The towing weight capability is 1800kg and the Caravan MTPLM is 1595kg. 

When we collected the caravan, the car handled as expected and pulled really well.  Also felt stable on the road and motorway.

I guess my question is here, is the ratio car vs caravan actually ok?

 

Best Regards

Mike & Anj

EmilysDad replied on 19/07/2018 19:35

Posted on 19/07/2018 19:35

I'm sure others will be able to baffle you with various numbers, but I believe you've been mislead. Lutz will tell you there's no such thing as 'kerb weight' but as your caravan is potentially somewhat heavier than the lightest your car will be, then you'll be towing way over 100%

Your Jaaag is ally so is relatively light

lornalou1 replied on 19/07/2018 19:39

Posted on 19/07/2018 19:39

caravan should not weigh more than the kerb weight of the vehicle pulling it. don't think it's illegal but you are well over the recommended 85% ratio and risking your, your family and everyone else's life on the road. bet your insurance wouldn't pay up in an accident. don't risk it.  

Tinwheeler replied on 19/07/2018 19:40

Posted on 19/07/2018 19:40

Legally, it seems OK.

However, the recommendation for safety is that the MTPLM of the van should be in the region of 85% of the kerb weight of the car. It's not law and many people successfully tow at 90-ish%. Your ratio is 110%.

It’s your call but consider the effect of the heavy van when you brake going downhill. It’s the cause of many a roll over. It’s not so much the pulling performance but the stopping ability that needs to be considered.

It never pays to take the word of a car or van salesman regarding a towing match. Their interest is in selling.

replied on 19/07/2018 20:55

Posted on 19/07/2018 20:55

It is usual to include weight of car, fuel and driver. I would weigh the car at a weighbridge and get the true answer!

ChemicalJasper replied on 19/07/2018 23:39

Posted on 19/07/2018 19:39 by lornalou1

caravan should not weigh more than the kerb weight of the vehicle pulling it. don't think it's illegal but you are well over the recommended 85% ratio and risking your, your family and everyone else's life on the road. bet your insurance wouldn't pay up in an accident. don't risk it.  

Posted on 19/07/2018 23:39

My 1992 80 bhp 1450kg Defender 90 will legally tow my 3500kg Ifor trailer.wink

Lutz replied on 20/07/2018 05:00

Posted on 19/07/2018 19:35 by EmilysDad

I'm sure others will be able to baffle you with various numbers, but I believe you've been mislead. Lutz will tell you there's no such thing as 'kerb weight' but as your caravan is potentially somewhat heavier than the lightest your car will be, then you'll be towing way over 100%

Your Jaaag is ally so is relatively light

Posted on 20/07/2018 05:00

There most definitely is such a thing as kerbweight. It's even defined in UK legislation. The problem begins when you try to find out what the kerbweight of your car actually is. It is specific to each and every vehicle and can vary by as much as about 150kg even for the same model, so any brochure, handbook, database, etc. can only be a rough guide. Moreover, manufacturers aren't obliged to provide the figure anyway. The mass in service figure in your V5c isn't much help either, because, a) mass in service is defined differently to kerbweight and b) it is unlikely to represent the actual figure for your car because, by definition it applies to a car with the bare minimum of factory fitted options. On top of that, published weights are often referred to as being 'kerbweight' whereas on closer scrutiny, they aren't according to the legal definition at all. Often, the mass in service figure is referred to as 'kerbweight' - which is OK for a rough guide, and it would most certainly result in a very conservative figure if you want to calculate the weight ratio, but not if you want something accurate.

lornalou1 replied on 20/07/2018 11:26

Posted on 19/07/2018 23:39 by ChemicalJasper

My 1992 80 bhp 1450kg Defender 90 will legally tow my 3500kg Ifor trailer.wink

Posted on 20/07/2018 11:26

that doesn't mean it's safe to tow at the max weight. my grand Cherokee will pull 3500kg but I would never do so as its the stopping not the going that's the problem.

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