Who actually has to do the police work

Rubytuesday replied on 14/09/2016 17:32

Posted on 14/09/2016 17:32

read an article yesterday about a young lady who had her iPad stolen , immediatly reported to the police , who appeared not to be interested, as it happens she had that wonderful were is my iPad / iPhone app so was able to trace it to the very house , on phoning and informing the police they just said "well you are lucky just knock the door and ask for it back" SurprisedYell 

This incident was taken up on radio 2 today and a phone in was set up , very surprised that this was a regular thing and is happening very often, one lady said she traced her iPad and the men who had hers was in a dreadful house and with. nasty looking dogs around SurprisedYell

so who are supposed to do there job , what the heck are they there for 

cyberyacht replied on 14/09/2016 17:49

Posted on 14/09/2016 17:49

That has to make it into the Daily Mail. Mind you, quite rightly so. Perhaps a hint that you might advise the Police Complaints Authority of 'accessory to theft' since they are aware of the crime and location of the stolen goods.

redface replied on 14/09/2016 21:44

Posted on 14/09/2016 21:44

They seem to be more pro-active on the Drink driving or Drugs front than on thieving, these days, where they are reactive at best..

Merve replied on 16/09/2016 15:30

Posted on 16/09/2016 15:30

Theft is a CRIME! I'm afraid that the 'quality' is being drained from every facet of life. In my day, there werent any PCSOs ( what a joke!) an arrest would have been made and charges brought. I cant say for certain that the magistrates would have done their job and perhaps that's the problem- why bother if no one else cares?? Disgusting and a dereliction of duty as far as I am concerned . If I was the senior officer, heads would have rolled and it wouldn't have happened again. I wonder what would have happened had she knocked on the door and been told to 'go away' in expletives! 

DavidKlyne replied on 16/09/2016 16:10

Posted on 16/09/2016 16:10

I take many of these sorts of stories in the press with a pinch of salt as they are more interested in the headline than the substance. The press are in a powerful position and they could have contacted the Chief Constable to check the "facts" It seems very strange to me that a police officer would suggest sending a member of the public into what could be a dangerous situation. I would want to know more before making a judgement.

David

Takethedogalong replied on 16/09/2016 16:36

Posted on 16/09/2016 16:36

If you have a burglary or theft, just tell them part of a uniform was amongst the items taken. This seems to set all sorts of alarm bells off, and gets a much better response, SOCO, follow up etc... Not that much happens beyond police of course. Our criminal justice system and sentencing is no longer fit for purpose and could do with overhauling, especially where deaths are linked to driving offences. 

Kennine replied on 16/09/2016 17:25

Posted on 16/09/2016 17:25

Theft is a CRIME! I'm afraid that the 'quality' is being drained from every facet of life. In my day, there werent any PCSOs ( what a joke!) an arrest would have been made and charges brought. I cant say for certain that the magistrates would have done their job and perhaps that's the problem- why bother if no one else cares?? Disgusting and a dereliction of duty as far as I am concerned . If I was the senior officer, heads would have rolled and it wouldn't have happened again. I wonder what would have happened had she knocked on the door and been told to 'go away' in expletives! 

Write your comments here...Excellent post Merve. 

Regards Kennine

Rubytuesday replied on 16/09/2016 18:07

Posted on 16/09/2016 18:07

Article was not just in the tabloids, other news sources Took it up , it was even taken up in the phone in on BBC 2 with Jeremy vine ,

many phoned in with similar stories and from many walks of life and different areas around the u k 

we all know the police are scaling down on a lot of crimes even if you have had a burglary and it was an empty house and no persons was hurt they come when they are ready / available 

tigerfish replied on 19/09/2016 00:48

Posted on 19/09/2016 00:48

Merve mentioned PCSO's or plastic Policemen as they are known within the service.  Almost no powers and very little training, they were introduced by a Govt trapped by their promise to increase Police patrols. But how to do it without increasing the spending on the Police?  That was the problem!

The solution was quite simple.  De criminalise traffic offences and pass the responsibility for enforcing parking etc to the local authorities. ( But dont give them any money to do it).

That way you can sack all the Police paid for Traffic wardens (Do you remember the yellow hat bands). Then you can use all the money you save on traffic warden wages to create the new PCSO's.  You can save even more money by skimping on their training and paying them not very much.  Then you can con the public into believing that Police numbers have gone up when actually they havent!

That is NOT a fantasy story because I was senior enough in the Police Service at the time to know what was happening! Policing on the cheap!  But the idea failed because the public soon learned that the PCSO's had no actual powers that a proper Police Officer had and the criminal soon learned that too.

TF

 

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