The future

I'm not sure what point JVB is making but we need to hope the future includes both clubs. This isn't meant to be an inter club 'battle' as there is room and a need for both. Each club has pros and cons but this was about the reasons C&CC calls itself the Friendly Club, that's all. 

To be honest JVB, I've enjoyed all the stays this year with both clubs and the CL we used, I was so glad to get away. I have noticed differences up and down the country but it wasn't my aim to notice the details. 

I can understand some of the tenters or possibly small campervans spending more time outside. The areas used by tents end to be away from us on hardstanding. Much of the year we tend to be off site during the day. When temperature reach around 30f we are often back earlier looking for shade. 

 The reason C&CC calls itself the Friendly Club is simply a self publicising slogan.

Always a second choice for me when both sites are close. Simply because CMC supply more facility options that I prefer.

What slogan should CAMC use?

I can think of many😳🤣

I do think the fact that having more tent units encourages a more outdoor approach, and lends itself to more social interaction. It was certainly the case for us when we primarily used a small private Site for years in Cornwall. Tents, campers, caravans all pitched up together, also a mix of British and overseas visitors gave a lovely atmosphere, and whilst you did get the odd ‘awkward” visitor, things were quickly sorted out by owners. Lots of different age groups as well, from early 20’s, family groups, right through to pensioners. 

CAMC Club Sites in the main are predominantly far removed from this most of the time. Newer, very expensive outfits, neat perfectly pitched rows, semi manicured grounds, clientele almost exclusively white, over 50’s British, very aware of belonging to a paid Membership organisation, with uniformed staff reflecting this demographic in charge. Anyone not fitting this image carries a slight air of “not quite us”. (Not intended to be a complaint or a criticism, it’s just an observation of generally, how things are). It is a quite tough environment for anyone different to consider embracing, looking in from the outside. To break this down would/will take time, finances, determination and research, a huge amount of persuasion of existing membership. Who can and will question each and every change they perceive.............more tents? Different types of accommodation? None Members on Sites? Play areas? Change of name? Etc...

A balancing act for the Club to keep happy it’s existing core, who love what they get, but a must do in terms of attracting new, younger Members to future proof the organisation.

TDA, you have listed in your 2nd para the very reasons we joined C&CC rather than CAMC 50 years ago🥺. It wasn't until retirement loomed and we wanted a bigger spread of sites that we joined CAMC. I like their sites but I'd not miss anything else in CAMC.

Perhaps " The Aspiring Club"

I do not see that many "younger members?" use any sites when it seems the majority who post on here tend to take advantage of discounts ,on all sites both here and on the continent 

I seem to think that the both clubs and many commercial sites the staff wear corporate image clothing , ,the staff employed to run(CC) sites will  need to have been members and have used club sites to  get a "feel" of them and are "expected" to  have some time on a site to see what is involved rather than the perception  that some would like to think the job entails

I can always remember the owner of Milestones site (Newark) when some cc warden friends and us stayed there,i think he now owns another site not sure of name (fields end water?)

said to us As an owner i can have on who i want and if they break my "code of conduct" they are told to leave , where as you (to our friends)will have to jump through hoops if you get complaints or have problems with members on any cc sites you run