The future

malnik replied on 07/10/2020 22:04

Posted on 07/10/2020 22:04

I have been a member for 3 years now, I don't think i can continue my membership for the years ahead. As a young family i find this club not exactly "family friendly". More to the point, I have been looking at the make up of the people at the head of the table, the council members and commitee. 

We live in a diverse country and our nation is much better for that amazing diversity. Unfortunately the club seems to be a relic of the 70s, diversity seems to be something we as a club are unaware of. I'm sure they are all doing a great job but how can we go ahead without our club reflecting the make up of the country and the people they represent. Dont get me started on age groups being represented. I have no idea what ages everyone is, but i don't see young families represented and once again, they can't be ignored. Unless ofcourse the club is for elderly white people only. Again, this is no criticism of those people.

The easy answer is anyone can apply or put themselves forward. But the aptmosphere has to be right, it has to be friendly to people from other groups to be able to apply. Is it? What is the cub doing to encourage more diversity? Younger representation? It has to be more than just a token "anyone can apply". And this direction has to be from the leader, Mr Lomas.

On the basis of the above, I can't continue to be a member when it comes time to renew. 

Takethedogalong replied on 12/11/2020 16:09

Posted on 12/11/2020 16:09

You won't find a group of motorcyclists, a backpacker or two or teenage adventurers on a CAMC site. On a CAMC site a few tents will probably relegated to a bit of spare space and that's just a token nod towards anyone with other ideas about staying on a camp site.... (quoting Brue)

You are almost right. 😁 The last time we camped on a Club Site was at Wincanton Racecourse. Just our small tent and and two others, couple of Dutch motorcyclists touring SW. We had a good quarter mile walk to the loos and showers, but we did have a very nice time sat outside watching the sunset with those two very nice gents. Beers shared, food shared, we sent them on their way to Cornwall with our spare map marked with some good sites and must see places.

Club Sites clientele nowadays is very predictable. The main differences occur between weekends and mid week, and between term time and school holidays. Slightly more families weekends and holiday time, but still often with grand parents. Sites that have a lot to do adjacent, such as Yellowcraig, Clumber will attract more families. Big catchment areas as well.

 

replied on 12/11/2020 16:14

Posted on 12/11/2020 14:00 by

You won't see controllable showers on C&CC sites and so there are differences indeed.

Posted on 12/11/2020 16:14

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brue replied on 12/11/2020 16:19

Posted on 12/11/2020 15:22 by DavidKlyne

Brue

I take on board what you say but I was trying to establish if there was any basis to them calling themselves the Friendly Club? The CMC have no real premis for being considered a tent camping Club. In the past they have only done it to serve conditions of a lease and because they don't really want to do it they put the tent pitches in some corner out of the way which is as close they dare come to discouraging tent campers. OK things have changed more recently with a positive encouragement of tenting on some sites. On some CMC sites the camping areas are quite nice. Blackhorse Farm is one example where the tents pitch in a separate, traffic free, area next to a toilet block. Given the constant backwards and forwards of vehicles on the average CMC site I think if I were a tenter I would prefer a nice quiet spot! 

I am trying to envisage a chapter of hells angels rocking up on a CMC site, no doubt would have to be followed by a group of ambulances to take those with an attack of the vapours to hospital!!!

David

Posted on 12/11/2020 16:19

David. The funny thing about groups of motorcyclists is their increasing age! laughing

or maybe caravanners used to have scooters...laughing

Tinwheeler replied on 12/11/2020 16:24

Posted on 12/11/2020 16:19 by brue

David. The funny thing about groups of motorcyclists is their increasing age! laughing

or maybe caravanners used to have scooters...laughing

Posted on 12/11/2020 16:24

Over the years we've seen a few groups of older bikers turn up at Dunnet Bay and set up camp in tents.

Wow, that'll be motorcyclists and tents on a CAMC site, no less!! 😂😂

replied on 12/11/2020 16:37

Posted on 12/11/2020 16:14 by

Some are. In fact, I can think of only one C&CC site (which we have used) where there are push button, set temperature showers. 

Posted on 12/11/2020 16:37

 I have yet to find one where I can control the temperature.

I have visited 10 sites in the last two previous years. One was no facility. One there was only two showers for the males and people waiting at 6.30am and I did not bother to check after previous experience 8 facility sites. I cannot use hot showers on my mid and lower back.

JVB66 replied on 12/11/2020 16:45

Posted on 12/11/2020 16:14 by

Some are. In fact, I can think of only one C&CC site (which we have used) where there are push button, set temperature showers. 

Posted on 12/11/2020 16:45

Sandringham and St Neots both have push button showers ,both quite modern/refubished ,it may be what are fitted at that time

replied on 12/11/2020 16:52

Posted on 12/11/2020 16:45 by JVB66

Sandringham and St Neots both have push button showers ,both quite modern/refubished ,it may be what are fitted at that time

Posted on 12/11/2020 16:52

Certainly one of those visited was St Neots and I have read comment on C&CC forum in the past about refurbished showers using push button.

I should correct myself here. One of the 8 was I think affiliated in some (Polstead I think) way and was I think not a normal C&CC site and I think it had older adjustable temperature showers , 

eurortraveller replied on 12/11/2020 17:48

Posted on 12/11/2020 17:48

My guesses  of how the future will unfold for the Club - and they are only guesses as I don't have the statistics which Club managers have - but here goes.

The number of motorhomes will in the future surpass the number of caravans and changes will happen as a result. 

Motorhomers who have been Club members and are switching from caravans will initially continue to use Club sites - but their bookings will be for shorter stays as they tour and move rather than stay.

As the new motorhomers discover the other options open to them and as more Aires become available in the UK, the bookings by those motorhomers  on Club sites will reduce.

Some Club sites in rural locations without good public transport will prove to be unpopular with motorhomers and will be harder hit than others. 

CLs in grass fields will see a reduction in trade and will continue to dwindle.

Families with children will more and more patronise places like Center Parcs and Featherdown  Farms which are more attractive  to them than the present style of Club sites.

Independent campsites will adapt and improve more quickly than the Club.

But those are just my guesses. 

 

 

JVB66 replied on 12/11/2020 17:58

Posted on 12/11/2020 17:48 by eurortraveller

My guess of how the future will unfold for the Club - and it is only a guess as I don't have the statistics which Club managers have - but here goes.

The number of motorhomes will in the future surpass the number of caravans and changes will happen as a result. 

Motorhomers who have been Club members and are switching from caravans will initially continue to use Club sites - but their bookings will be for shorter stays as they tour and move rather than stay.

As the new motorhomers discover the other options open to them and as more Aires become available in the UK, the bookings by those motorhomers  on Club sites will reduce.

Some Club sites in rural locations without good public transport will prove to be unpopular with motorhomers and will be harder hit than others. 

CLs in grass fields will see a reduction in trade. 

Families with children will more and more patronise pplaces like Center Parcs and Featherdown  Farms which are more attractive  to them than the present style of Club sites.

 

 

 

Posted on 12/11/2020 17:58

Unless there is vast investment in charging infrastructure ,or hydrogen outlets? then i cannot see motor caravans or touring caravans still being viable holiday accommodation in the future

replied on 12/11/2020 18:10

Posted on 12/11/2020 16:37 by

 I have yet to find one where I can control the temperature.

I have visited 10 sites in the last two previous years. One was no facility. One there was only two showers for the males and people waiting at 6.30am and I did not bother to check after previous experience 8 facility sites. I cannot use hot showers on my mid and lower back.

Posted on 12/11/2020 18:10

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