Instrument panel lighting

LeTouriste replied on 08/01/2019 10:11

Posted on 08/01/2019 10:11

I have recently changed my vehicle from a 2009 VW Touran to a 2017 VW Caravelle.  On the Touran, the panel lighting came on when the sidelights were switched on.  But on the Caravelle this doesn't happen until the headlight are switched on.  Initially I thought this meant a fault in the system but, going onto the Caravelle and California Owners Club website, I found that this was a VW feature and there were several adverse comments about it.   One poster pointed out that on a dull day, although lights were not required, the instrument panel could be in shadow and not readily readable.  Had its lighting been linked to the sidelights, simply switching just them on would solve the problem.  I know that switching on dipped beam would also solve the problem, but the jury seems to still be out as to whether headlights should be used during daylight hours, and I thought that the DRL's, which automatically illuminate when the ignition is switched on, were supposed to be the answer to this.  Another poster claims to have found that a code can be changed so that the instrument panel is lit all the time - presumably when the ignition is turned on. Another owner, along with myself, decided not to "tamper" in case of messing up something else. When the car goes in for its annual service I will be asking for this to be changed if it is in fact possible.

LeTouriste replied on 12/01/2019 16:34

Posted on 08/01/2019 19:57 by Vulcan

I take your point, it's the same lack of common sense that allows some drivers to sit with their foot on the brake at night dazzling the person behind and driving in clear weather with fog lights on.

Posted on 12/01/2019 16:34

My car is an automatic so I have to hold it on the brake or it would creep forward until it bumped against the vehicle in front.

Going back to panel lights, I did mention the problem of a dull day when the panel could be in shadow and not readily readable - you don't have time to saint too long when on the move - making sidelights acceptable when the use of headlights is not really necessary.  At next service I will be asking for the panel lights to be programmed to come on with the sidelights.

My road lights switch does not have an "auto" setting.

Milothedog replied on 12/01/2019 16:50

Posted on 12/01/2019 16:34 by LeTouriste

My car is an automatic so I have to hold it on the brake or it would creep forward until it bumped against the vehicle in front.

Going back to panel lights, I did mention the problem of a dull day when the panel could be in shadow and not readily readable - you don't have time to saint too long when on the move - making sidelights acceptable when the use of headlights is not really necessary.  At next service I will be asking for the panel lights to be programmed to come on with the sidelights.

My road lights switch does not have an "auto" setting.

Posted on 12/01/2019 16:50

Is it the 7 speed DSG in your Caravelle ?  if so it will have the auto hold function if you have an EPB, so no need to sit with your foot on the brake pedal.

Vulcan replied on 13/01/2019 11:58

Posted on 12/01/2019 16:34 by LeTouriste

My car is an automatic so I have to hold it on the brake or it would creep forward until it bumped against the vehicle in front.

Going back to panel lights, I did mention the problem of a dull day when the panel could be in shadow and not readily readable - you don't have time to saint too long when on the move - making sidelights acceptable when the use of headlights is not really necessary.  At next service I will be asking for the panel lights to be programmed to come on with the sidelights.

My road lights switch does not have an "auto" setting.

Posted on 13/01/2019 11:58

That is what your hand/parking brake is for.

LeTouriste replied on 13/01/2019 12:52

Posted on 12/01/2019 16:50 by Milothedog

Is it the 7 speed DSG in your Caravelle ?  if so it will have the auto hold function if you have an EPB, so no need to sit with your foot on the brake pedal.

Posted on 13/01/2019 12:52

My Caravelle is a 2017 with 7-speed DSG, but does not have auto-hold, neither does it have an EPB. It can depend on how long the wait is.  Frequently, drivers in tail backs tend to start with a largish gap in front and then inch forward, which means the 'tail' is constantly on the move.  As it is, the stop/start function kicks in and I don't feel inclined to keep shifting between D and N every few seconds.   In most cases, the brake lights of cars in front of me remain on, and I do not find this a reason to complain about their brightness, so is it truly a problem to get het up about?

Tinwheeler replied on 13/01/2019 13:07

Posted on 13/01/2019 13:07

Who's het up? I thought we were just pointing out that you don’t 'have' to hold it on the footbrake.

Personally, I try not to dazzle the people behind with the currently popular ultra bright LED brake lights.

 

moulesy replied on 13/01/2019 13:41

Posted on 13/01/2019 13:41

Yes, I have to agree. One of my pet hates is sitting behind drivers who either don't realise what their handbrake is for, or are too lazy to use it! yell

Vulcan replied on 13/01/2019 14:46

Posted on 13/01/2019 14:46

Rule 114
You MUST NOT
Use any lights in a way which would dazzle or cause discomfort to other road users, including pedestrians, cyclists and horse riders

LeTouriste replied on 13/01/2019 16:18

Posted on 13/01/2019 16:18

Personally, I don't have a problem with the brake lights of vehicles in front of me, and the incidence of drivers actually applying their handbrakes to extinguish them is a very low number - the majority just keep the footbrake pressed down.   It is the oncoming headlights that are the cause of so much discomfort to drivers, as can be observed when reading any of the motoring-based forums.  The worst situation for this is when, on a 2-way carriageway, there is an oncoming queue of vehicles and the angle of approach presents the offside headlights as a continuous string of glare.   By comparison, rear brake lights are a walk in the park.

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