The lifespan of a Forum

Dickdastardly1 replied on 22/11/2017 13:41

Posted on 22/11/2017 13:41

I have very frequently viewed these forums and even made a few comments in the past. Recently, I have thought about what is the point of these forums. Are they here for us members, to express our views with other members and discuss the threads?  or perhaps, the posts are aimed at the CAMC giving them access to what your thoughts are? It does appear to me that these forums are dying a slow death.

eurortraveller replied on 24/11/2017 14:48

Posted on 24/11/2017 14:48

I think some of you are much too concerned about the technical side of the software. I sometimes read another forum - outside of caravans  altogether - the software is modern and slick but the content is sluggish, tedious, laboured and boring. It's the membership and their attitudes and outlooks which are strangling it - not the software. 

huskydog replied on 24/11/2017 14:56

Posted on 24/11/2017 14:56

I must say I don't have to much problem with the CT part of the site ,OK posting a photo is a bit of a faff ,but you always good help with any questions I have

perhaps i'm too easily pleased

Kennine replied on 24/11/2017 16:08

Posted on 24/11/2017 16:08

This forum software works after a fashion. It's good enough for the casual user to ask questions and get advice, which is what caravan forums are all about. . I quite like it's quirkiness and idiosyncrasies. But then I only visit for a few minutes every couple of days or so. 

Those whose whole life revolves around continually posting all day on this forum,  may find it slightly limiting. 

I suspect that many of this forum's previous users are finding Faceache much more to their liking and to that end I forsee sometime soon, that the CMC will ditch this forum in favour of their Facebook alternative.

 

 

Takethedogalong replied on 24/11/2017 17:16

Posted on 24/11/2017 14:35 by Bugs

Hi David

I think the simple answer is that there is a difference between a Content Management System (CMS) and dedicated forum software.

A CMS (as used by the CAMC) is an integrated software package which provides the whole website, of which the "community" or "forum" is just one part. The community bit can often be quite basic, without some of the extras available in dedicated forum software - and because the CMS is totally integrated some of the code can also be interdependent - so it isn't always easy to make changes to the community bit without causing issues elsewhere.

In contrast, dedicated forum software just does forums and often offers extras such as image uploading, playing videos in a post etc as standard.

Hope this helps!
Bugs

Posted on 24/11/2017 17:16

That has answered a lot of thoughts regarding the CT forum, and I can now understand why some parts of it seem frustrating and slow, as opposed to other elements of the website, which work very well. 

DavidKlyne replied on 24/11/2017 20:41

Posted on 24/11/2017 14:35 by Bugs

Hi David

I think the simple answer is that there is a difference between a Content Management System (CMS) and dedicated forum software.

A CMS (as used by the CAMC) is an integrated software package which provides the whole website, of which the "community" or "forum" is just one part. The community bit can often be quite basic, without some of the extras available in dedicated forum software - and because the CMS is totally integrated some of the code can also be interdependent - so it isn't always easy to make changes to the community bit without causing issues elsewhere.

In contrast, dedicated forum software just does forums and often offers extras such as image uploading, playing videos in a post etc as standard.

Hope this helps!
Bugs

Posted on 24/11/2017 20:41

Thanks Mick

A useful contribution which gives us a wider understanding of the problems that might pertain to this forum. It's quite interesting to contrast Club Together with the C&CC offering which is very basic and makes Club Together look quite sophisticated. However what you rarely ever see on the C&CC forum is criticism of the actual forum. Perhaps pre new forum expectations were raised too high which has lead to dissatisfaction amongst some members?

David

briantimber replied on 24/11/2017 22:09

Posted on 24/11/2017 12:56 by DavidKlyne

Rocky

I don't think it could work the same here. Mick has complete control and from what I see has a fairly small friendly and compliant group of regular contributors which makes life a lot easier. The set up for the Club is somewhat different in that the few active moderators (very few most of the time!!) only have a limited amount of options although with the new forum those options did increase somewhat. Beyond that there are several layers of responsibility that control the Club's Media presence. What contributors here see as important might not be seen as a big a priority elsewhere as they have to look at the bigger picture and distribute resources accordingly. Club Together works for many despite the odd frustration here and there!

David

Posted on 24/11/2017 22:09

DK,

Being one of those fairly small, friendly and compliant group of regular contributors, may I say, that I take exception to your use of the word COMPLIANT.

We are not robots, we are adults and are treated as adults, showing and being shown Respect in return.

We have no fear of acrimony or petty moderation as happens on here. Help is readily and swiftly given without criticism. Moderation is fair and swift, (rarely required) and never anonymous, as is often the case on here.

As for there being a fairly small group of regular contributors, that relates to roughly 10% of total members, what percentage does CT have?

Your comments about the few active moderators hardly do you credit...cool

 

peedee replied on 25/11/2017 07:37

Posted on 24/11/2017 20:41 by DavidKlyne

Thanks Mick

A useful contribution which gives us a wider understanding of the problems that might pertain to this forum. It's quite interesting to contrast Club Together with the C&CC offering which is very basic and makes Club Together look quite sophisticated. However what you rarely ever see on the C&CC forum is criticism of the actual forum. Perhaps pre new forum expectations were raised too high which has lead to dissatisfaction amongst some members?

David

Posted on 25/11/2017 07:37

I think the major difference between the two Clubs forums is:

The C&CC presents you with a list of the latest post when you log on and if the subject is not clear, hovering on the heading brings up the first few lines in the main body of the text. With the CMC forums its all clicks and looking at endless pages to see what is going on and to track down new posts. You can also go straight to the last post on a subject on the C&CC's forum. All in all much less time and effort is required to keep up with C&CC posts. Probably less demand on the servers as well! It is not that busy either, mainly because they insist on real names being used, Mind you activity on here is in my view dwindling to the same levels.

peedee

replied on 25/11/2017 08:03

Posted on 25/11/2017 08:03

Mind you activity on here is in my view dwindling to the same levels.

A slight exaggeration PD. From my occasional visit to C&CC 7 or 8 posts a day is not unusual

Takethedogalong replied on 25/11/2017 10:08

Posted on 25/11/2017 10:08

I suppose to a certain extent any forum will only be as interesting as its users make it, and compared with a lot of forums, touring based and others, there are a lot of topics which cannot be raised. This is very much a Club based offering, and in many ways, that is its most interesting feature as well as occasionally it's limiting point. Having said that, there's usually something new to learn, and we have picked up lots of tips around which sites will suit us, and shared some nice places to visit, and some helpful advice. It will certainly be very helpful when we come to tour overseas.

Kennine replied on 26/11/2017 14:26

Posted on 26/11/2017 14:26

A good indication that an hobby/special interest forum is on the way out is when the post count relating to the reason for the forum,  be it Boating, Caravanning, Photography Etc. becomes vastly outnumbered by "Pointless posts" and the FB clone,  "What I'm doing today". wink

laughing

 

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