Motorised/ Ride-on Leisure Equipment
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TimboC replied on 17/07/2023 18:15
wedgy replied on 17/07/2023 18:34
Posted on 17/07/2023 18:34
It seems to me the club is alienating young families with kids and activly encourage the dog owning fraternity. Who do they think will take the place of us miserable old fogies when we expire. If people don't like to see children around there are plenty of adults only sites. As a child of the 50's we could play out around home without any fear but nowadays that's not possible so when kids arrive at a camp site it gives them a sence of the freedom that we could enjoy. Not all children are as dangerous as some of the reckless speeding drivers on site or as antisocial as the dog owners who allow fido on a banned extending lead to defecate on any piece of grass available with the excuse they will pick up after.
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peedee replied on 17/07/2023 18:36
Posted on 17/07/2023 18:36
You could argue bikes should also be banned , they are ridden equally dangerously as motorised devices by children. Why just ban motorised devices? That said, having been on sites where E-scooters were popular and are used, dangerously, mostly by teenagers as well as adults, I couldn't agree more about banning them.
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Takethedogalong replied on 17/07/2023 18:36
Posted on 17/07/2023 17:27 by wedgyYes to both. Let's have a children friendly club attitude.
Posted on 17/07/2023 18:36
The Club is children friendly. What it can’t control is how well some parents supervise their children, and consider the implications of allowing them to use dangerous equipment around others. So it decides to not allow certain equipment via a risk assessment. It happens in all sorts of leisure environments Wedgy, not just Club Sites.
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Tinwheeler replied on 17/07/2023 18:45
Posted on 17/07/2023 18:45
Wedgy, it's nothing to do with not wanting to see children around or about dogs. It is obviously, first and foremost, about safety and I think CAMC is being proactively family friendly by protecting all site users from accidents by banning the use of these items. Stop and think about legal liability even if you don’t consider H&S to be relevant.
"us miserable old fogies" - you speak for yourself 😂😂
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Cornersteady replied on 17/07/2023 18:53
Posted on 17/07/2023 18:34 by wedgyIt seems to me the club is alienating young families with kids and activly encourage the dog owning fraternity. Who do they think will take the place of us miserable old fogies when we expire. If people don't like to see children around there are plenty of adults only sites. As a child of the 50's we could play out around home without any fear but nowadays that's not possible so when kids arrive at a camp site it gives them a sence of the freedom that we could enjoy. Not all children are as dangerous as some of the reckless speeding drivers on site or as antisocial as the dog owners who allow fido on a banned extending lead to defecate on any piece of grass available with the excuse they will pick up after.
Posted on 17/07/2023 18:53
It only takes one child to be at worst reckless or at best not paying attention/distracted and a bad accident could happen. These e-scooters move under their own power and the momentum of their weight and the riders could cause a lot of injuries and/or damage. Young children and teenagers should not be allowed on them as they lack the control needed in a fairly densely populated area with pedestrians and cars about.
We haven't had a thread about speeding cars for a while, I've noticed a marked reduction in speed on site so I assume the measures brought in the club appear to be working, but if it happens report the car reg to the wardens, as for dogs you are really over exaggerating there.
I see plenty of children on sites all having fun and I don't think banning e-scooters in any way will alienate families.
But have you found any campsites that will allow them?
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Cornersteady replied on 17/07/2023 19:00
Posted on 17/07/2023 18:36 by peedeeYou could argue bikes should also be banned , they are ridden equally dangerously as motorised devices by children. Why just ban motorised devices? That said, having been on sites where E-scooters were popular and are used, dangerously, mostly by teenagers as well as adults, I couldn't agree more about banning them.
peedee
Posted on 17/07/2023 19:00
There could be an argument there for sure, but there is a big difference with bikes. Firstly stop pedalling and the bike stops soon enough, it will only go as fast as the rider's legs can push it and this is usually about well less than 10mph but of course it should be kept to the speed limit.
With an e-scooter, assuming it's a legal one, the max speed is 15.5 mph, all totally unaided and in my experience of children, I can't see any child will keep it to a slow speed, more likely to max it?
But yes I support the ban.
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Wherenext replied on 17/07/2023 19:01
davetommo replied on 17/07/2023 19:06
Posted on 17/07/2023 18:34 by wedgyIt seems to me the club is alienating young families with kids and activly encourage the dog owning fraternity. Who do they think will take the place of us miserable old fogies when we expire. If people don't like to see children around there are plenty of adults only sites. As a child of the 50's we could play out around home without any fear but nowadays that's not possible so when kids arrive at a camp site it gives them a sence of the freedom that we could enjoy. Not all children are as dangerous as some of the reckless speeding drivers on site or as antisocial as the dog owners who allow fido on a banned extending lead to defecate on any piece of grass available with the excuse they will pick up after.
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