Posted on 16/07/2021 19:22
I read elsewhere that C&CC are closing some sites and cancelling people’s bookings due to staff shortages. Sure enough, it's true and they've updated their website today. I hope nobody here is affected.
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Posted on 16/07/2021 23:02 by SteveLWould not help much if several staff get pinged at the same time.
Posted on 17/07/2021 11:03
A business model that relies on poorly paid staff rich enough to afford a large caravan to live in? Sites that have no facilities on site such as proper shops and eateries? Providing facilities to attract well off, retired dog owners, but providing nothing to attract young families for who the excellent dog walking and washing facilities are utterly irrelevant?
welcome to the 1950’s
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Posted on 17/07/2021 10:48 by CornersteadyOne of the attractions of having wardens for many use use both clubs is that they are experienced caravaners/MHers and have been members (not sure if that is true of CCC) themselves. So they know the ropes and being experienced caravaner/MHers they can, and do, help out and fix with those problems that we have all experienced from time to time. Would non LV 'younger' people know all about any of that and have the years of experience to do that?
Again the live in site aspect on another valuable asset to many users. The wardens have no where to run if problems or concerns arise. Bought in staff who simply come on site to do a 'shift', in my view, will simply pass on the problem.
Yes these might be thought of as a safety blanket, but so what?
As to your last sentence, are you saying the club isn't successful? I would imagine many non club sites would dearly love to have the high occupancy rates the clubs do.
In any event, you post you don't use club sites so why do you want all these changes?
Posted on 17/07/2021 11:03 by HarryTheHymerA business model that relies on poorly paid staff rich enough to afford a large caravan to live in? Sites that have no facilities on site such as proper shops and eateries? Providing facilities to attract well off, retired dog owners, but providing nothing to attract young families for who the excellent dog walking and washing facilities are utterly irrelevant?
welcome to the 1950’s
Posted on 17/07/2021 11:50
Cornersteady, Thankyou for your reply to my post. You are right - I have no interest in how Club sites are staffed. I was simply trying to make helpful suggestions as to how the two Clubs might overcome the difficulties they seem to be facing in recruiting and retaining staff. If their traditional staffing model is not working it might need overhauling.
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Posted on 17/07/2021 11:03 by HarryTheHymerA business model that relies on poorly paid staff rich enough to afford a large caravan to live in? Sites that have no facilities on site such as proper shops and eateries? Providing facilities to attract well off, retired dog owners, but providing nothing to attract young families for who the excellent dog walking and washing facilities are utterly irrelevant?
welcome to the 1950’s
Posted on 17/07/2021 11:56
Suits us and many others a lot younger just fine. Are staff on commercial sites paid a lot more? They certainly aren’t at many hotels and other leisure industry suppliers. We don’t have a dog by the way. 😀 Plus do young families not wash. 😂 I would have thought the family washroom very relevant.
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Posted on 17/07/2021 12:49
I don't know about the other Club but I imagine the CMC model has some attractions to certain sectors of the early retired community. I imagine many have retired early or perhaps even been made redundant. Probably have some personal means but maybe not enough to be completely free. The Club provide them with employment for, say, six/nine months of the year albeit at probably NMW but couple with minimal living expenses except for food. In their "off time" they are free to spend time abroad which probably was in their mind when deciding on this type of employment and everyone wins. in normal circumstances.
David
Posted on 17/07/2021 11:50 by eurortravellerCornersteady, Thankyou for your reply to my post. You are right - I have no interest in how Club sites are staffed. I was simply trying to make helpful suggestions as to how the two Clubs might overcome the difficulties they seem to be facing in recruiting and retaining staff. If their traditional staffing model is not working it might need overhauling.
Posted on 17/07/2021 11:03 by HarryTheHymerA business model that relies on poorly paid staff rich enough to afford a large caravan to live in? Sites that have no facilities on site such as proper shops and eateries? Providing facilities to attract well off, retired dog owners, but providing nothing to attract young families for who the excellent dog walking and washing facilities are utterly irrelevant?
welcome to the 1950’s
Posted on 17/07/2021 13:00
but providing nothing to attract young families
Harry have you actually been on a club site during school holidays and weekends? I have for over 20 years now and during those times they are often packed with just families with kids of all ages.
Also the club does far more to attract families than many non club sites. Children are 'children' till their 18th birthday while many non club sites it is as low as 12 or 14. Also there are many sites with kids for a pound. (in my time it was kids for a penny)
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Posted on 17/07/2021 13:16
Time for a re-think, considering how many members the club has and the cost of membership a non-political and non PC change could do the club good.
we have to accept that we, the older generation are getting fewer and luckily the younger generation is getting to like camping with their families and are joining the club and its for this generation we have to modernise it, like some of you say the name Warden sounds like the 50s and they do a really good job sometimes under hard conditions for what its worth the name Site Manager does bring it forward and the suggestion that a house on the site would make it very attractive is also a good idea. The remark that the older Caravaners/mobilers are more expierenced to become Wardens does`nt make the young more less capable of doing a good job.
It might be worth the trouble getting an independent Company in to research what the members want and how things can be improved for the better without people losing their jobs.
Anyway just a few ideas, all of you a hopefully Corona free holiday which does`nt really have to be in Europe.
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Posted on 17/07/2021 13:16 by Karmann 600Time for a re-think, considering how many members the club has and the cost of membership a non-political and non PC change could do the club good.
we have to accept that we, the older generation are getting fewer and luckily the younger generation is getting to like camping with their families and are joining the club and its for this generation we have to modernise it, like some of you say the name Warden sounds like the 50s and they do a really good job sometimes under hard conditions for what its worth the name Site Manager does bring it forward and the suggestion that a house on the site would make it very attractive is also a good idea. The remark that the older Caravaners/mobilers are more expierenced to become Wardens does`nt make the young more less capable of doing a good job.
It might be worth the trouble getting an independent Company in to research what the members want and how things can be improved for the better without people losing their jobs.
Anyway just a few ideas, all of you a hopefully Corona free holiday which does`nt really have to be in Europe.
Posted on 17/07/2021 15:23
Time for a rethink? We need to be careful what we wish for, not that that will have any baring on what happens! Now tell me when does the last ICE vehicle roll of the production line. Caravanning, I’m sure, will start changing very quickly now. Hence possibly all the pods, cabins, safari tents and the like now popping up! That forward thinking and future planning has started me thinks!
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