Oh no not weights again - surely not

It matters not what the all up weight of your car is. It is the stated/plated kerb weight that matters along with the manufacturers stated max towing capacity and the plated gross train weight.

In the interests of safety, it’s recommended that you aim to tow at about 85% of your car's kerb weight. 1490 x 85% = 1267, hmm!

To exceed the manufacturer's stated max towing weight, or the GTW, puts you in trouble with Johnny Law.

The manufacturers quoted kerbweights are generic and not model/variant specific so are not useable.I am waiting on the dealer to confirm where the plate is on the car as one is not evident (they couldn't find one when it was delivered) The towing capacity is 1800 so no issue , my question is does the noseweight come off the GVW ?

85&% is a recommendation as others have said and to quote the club experienced towers can go to 100%. Kerbweight by the way doesn't include me at 106kg so to use your figures 1490+106=1596 which is 93%. There are stats stats and ........

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its a  new company car so V5 with them, Im waiting a copy. Just to confirm its the GVW I am trying to confirm not the GTW which is 4030kg.

Its a Peugeot 5008 2018 which Peugeot have confirmed has a mass in service of 1656kg

I can’t answer your question re nose weight but neither can I see the relevance of it.

I did say 85% is a recommendation but it depends very much on the car and other factors whether it’s sensible to exceed that. Does the kerb weight not include the standard 75kg for a driver?

Yes, stats, stats and common sense.

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Your dead right Tinwheeler I would never knowingly tow a dangerous outfit which is why Im determined to nail this down. I did confirm with Peugeot that the kerb weight doesn't include fuel or driver , the mass in service includes 90% fuel tank and 75kg for the driver and the club confirmed its sensible to include passengers and luggage in your calculations.

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Mass in Service includes 75kg for the driver which kerbweight does not do. Kerbweight is no longer a term that has any relevance in the vehicle industry, but it is still referred to by the general public and caravan clubs, etc

The shame is I haven't been 75kg for a long time and I have no usable payload left in the van or car.

As the noseweight is applied to the car I think I will err on the side of caution and include it in my overall Gross Vehicle Weight.

Or get a motorhome and chuck the scales.

 

If you get a MH rated at 3500kg these days you likely won’t have the payload to carry the scales!

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Im luck enough to also have a kia 4x4 which will do the job if needed, looks like it will be Peugeot for short trips with no gear and the 4x4 for longer outings with the BBQ etc.