Automatics

johndailey replied on 22/10/2018 11:49

Posted on 22/10/2018 11:49

Does driving an automatic completely or cut down clutch burn when towing/reversing a caravan?

johndailey replied on 22/10/2018 20:30

Posted on 22/10/2018 20:30

I do tell her TW but for some reason I am still in the wrong. Getting used to it though. Glad that she does not read this forum!

lornalou1 replied on 22/10/2018 20:53

Posted on 22/10/2018 20:53

My wife's disabled and cannot talk ( sealed ) but I can put it on a pitch without assistance but have to keep getting out to check where back end is. surprised

richardandros replied on 23/10/2018 05:41

Posted on 22/10/2018 17:43 by EmilysDad

VW use automated manual DSGs don't they? 🤔 with not one but two clutch plates to burn out .... 🙄

Posted on 23/10/2018 05:41

 No they don't.  And like Boff, I got the same guff from the salesman about the DSG gearbox - but he was wrong. They have to use a TC because it's the only way of coping with the torque the 3 litre V6 produces.

Sadly VW stopped producing the Escape in 2016 so mine is one of the last so I won't be changing it anytime soon.

replied on 23/10/2018 07:28

Posted on 22/10/2018 19:55 by Cornersteady

we have always used it, we unhitch on the road by our chosen pitchand use the mover to get the van all the way on the pitch (within 6 inches of the peg of course) . Don't even try and use reverse while hitched now.

On leaving we just turn the van 45 degrees and reverse the car solo up to about a foot or so then let the mover do it's magic.

We have automatic parking for cars now, Wonder when movers will automatically move the van to the right place under the hitch?

Posted on 23/10/2018 07:28

Pitched up for 25 years with the car. 50/50 for the next 7 years. The last 6 years since having the Alko wheel lock I have used the motor mover. I need to engage it anyway to align the wheel lock. All my reversing with the car is when we go the wrong way!

viatorem replied on 23/10/2018 09:20

Posted on 22/10/2018 11:49 by johndailey

Does driving an automatic completely or cut down clutch burn when towing/reversing a caravan?

Posted on 23/10/2018 09:20

There are different types as mentioned above. I list these in order of my personal preference.

Torque converter uses a fluid to transfer engine torque to the drive train. Advantages are that there is no friction clutch to burn and the torque converter can amplify available torque. The T.C  on modern autos is only used until gears lock in which is usually by friction bands. Up to 9 ratios. Disadvantages are possible overheating of the fluid, possible friction band wear and on older boxes lower mpg (efficiency)

Wet Dual clutch, friction plates in liquid. Direct drive like a manual but each clutch assigned alternate gear ratios. I would guess better wear and power handling than the dry version. Advantages mpg, quicker changes. up to 7 ratios

Dry Dual clutch as above but two dry friction plates, I'm guessing wear similar to manual but at more than halved as maybe the electronics prevent too much abuse.

CVT continuously variable transmission, some magic with cones and drive bands. At least it used to be.

Robot box, basically a manually run by actuators controlled by  electronics

The best clue to the suitability of an auto box to towing is if the max tow weight for the vehicle is upgraded or down graded from the manual box version. upgrade = good, downgrade = suspect

EmilysDad replied on 23/10/2018 09:38

Posted on 23/10/2018 09:38

This video is quite good at explaining some of the differences. You either love or hate the Ozzy 'Clarkson'

Metheven replied on 23/10/2018 11:21

Posted on 23/10/2018 11:21

OK he's not Cornish wink but yeah, I like him and it's a good easy understanding of the differing transmissions.

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 23/10/2018 12:06

Posted on 22/10/2018 20:20 by Tinwheeler

Do you not explain that if she cannot see you in the mirror, then it’s unlikely you'll see her?

Posted on 23/10/2018 12:06

Unless the driver has no reflection😱🧛🏼‍♂️🦇🧛🏻‍♀️(Topical posting. . . .Tick✅)

montesa replied on 23/10/2018 12:41

Posted on 23/10/2018 12:41

In my opinion the latest Modern Automatics for towing are just far superior, and with newish diesels very very economical as well (better than manual ?). 27-30 tow / 38 - 45 solo with our 4x4. Learn the features for reversing & driving as well though i.e. Hill start, low box, Manual paddle mode, cruise, sport mode for first gear etc etc. Once learnt & driven over time you really really will not go back.

I use MMover for anything iffy or tight, but reverse if just as easy and on sites with no East Grinstead white post to +/- 5cm target. 

Reversing Tip - Get your banksman guide to phone the car (driver) on their mobile phone for a hands-free blind reverse chat = slightly less rows.

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