Vehicle power supply and fridge issues

HappyHols123 replied on 14/08/2021 08:08

Posted on 14/08/2021 08:08

Hi, hoping someone can help! We are fairly new to caravanning and have a Swift Ace Viceroy (2013). We have a power indicator panel above door inside van, showing if van is connected via mains and also leisure and vehicle battery levels. When the panel is first turned on, all lights come on initially, so we know all displays work. We can view leisure battery levels, but once our car is hooked up (its a 13 pin connection), we cannot get the vehicle battery levels to display at all, although I think we had got it to display at some point. Is this normal? Or could it be a fuse issue? We do know there is a connection, as all external indicators, lights etc then work on the caravan. We have also had the caravan serviced and the car connections checked, and we are told all is fine, but we are still puzzled!

Also, we have a thetford fridge in the van, and when plugged into the mains we can set the fridge to run off mains electric. However, once we connect to our car, the fridge won't stay on (power light flashes red) and won't let us select any power source at all, (the light displays just flash). We do pre-cool the fridge on mains and pack the freezer bit with ice blocks before we go, but again don't know if we are doing something wrong.  Any advice would be much appreciated! Thank you! 😊

KeithL replied on 26/08/2021 20:35

Posted on 26/08/2021 17:56 by wh1nbrew

You don't say what vehicle you are using to tow.  We had an Octavia from new, factory fitted with towbar and electrics.  We had exactly the problem you describe, which was due to lack of suitable power supply being fitted by continental manufacturers for some reason.  We had a separate, additional power supply installed by a local towbar installer, and all was well after that.  I was told, but obviously don't know how true this is, that most continental caravans don't have fridges (!!??) and thus don't need this supply.

We have just changes cars, and made sure the new towbar installation allowed for electrical supply to the van.  It does, but this installation at least requires the engine to run to flow electric from the car to the van.  Presumably this is so it will not run down the car battery if hooked up overnight on say a long ferry crossing.  Seems strange to me that you have a wacking great domestic battery on the van, and it doesn't use this as the primary source - so the fridge runs overnight on this if required. 

Perhaps someone else can answer this particular query.  

 

Posted on 26/08/2021 20:35

You have to specify a separate fridge feed for most cars when using dedicated electrics as european manufacturers don't include them in the electrics module.

Back in the day the towbar electrics also used to include a device that only fed the caravan fridge when the car battery was suitably charged. This ensured the car battery had priority after starting, though that was in the days when less powerful alternators were fitted.

wh1nbrew replied on 29/08/2021 20:23

Posted on 26/08/2021 18:50 by Vulcan

The fridge element draws far too much power to run it for any length of time on the van leisure battery.

Posted on 29/08/2021 20:23

Thanks.  I hadn't investigated before just how much they draw.  Now there's food for thought (or should it be "food going off") when using one of the longer ferry crossings.

EmilysDad replied on 29/08/2021 21:19

Posted on 29/08/2021 20:23 by wh1nbrew

Thanks.  I hadn't investigated before just how much they draw.  Now there's food for thought (or should it be "food going off") when using one of the longer ferry crossings.

Posted on 29/08/2021 21:19

As long as you keep the door shut, the fridge will stay cool enough.

The 'small' fridge in my previous caravan drew around 10A, so at best (even if you could get your caravan fridge to run off the leisure battery)  it'd only run for half a day from a large battery

Lunarcpl replied on 01/09/2021 20:54

Posted on 01/09/2021 20:54

I haven't read through all the replies so this may have already been pointed out. Although you have a 13 pin plug, the 12 volt supply to the fridge, and a permanent 12 volt for ATC is an option. They are expensive extras so may not have been connected.  

wakeyman replied on 25/09/2021 16:58

Posted on 25/09/2021 16:58

Whilst slightly off topic i thought i might mention a power supply issue with the three way fridge  in my Pegasus GT65 that i encountered last summer. Having been a caravanner for 28 years i am slightly embarrassed to mention it but- The 240v power supply for our dometic fridge (and cooker) is via a switched 3 pin plug and socket in the pan storage area under the adjacent cooker.  In putting a pan away i accidentally pushed the switch into the off position resulting in the fridge being off overnight. When we realised the 240v wasnt working we switched to gas.  We eventually discovered the simple solution when we got home.  Check the obvious first!     

Vulcan replied on 25/09/2021 18:18

Posted on 01/09/2021 20:54 by Lunarcpl

I haven't read through all the replies so this may have already been pointed out. Although you have a 13 pin plug, the 12 volt supply to the fridge, and a permanent 12 volt for ATC is an option. They are expensive extras so may not have been connected.  

Posted on 25/09/2021 18:18

It is only certain continental manufacturers that regard these as an option and why people put up with it is beyond me, I have never had to beg for additional wiring on any of my Land Rovers. As for the permanent 12v supply, that has been around as long as I can remember originally as 12s pin 4 and certainly long before ATC was invented.

 

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