Reliability survey where is it?

Boff replied on 28/07/2016 13:14

Posted on 28/07/2016 13:14

The story so far

In September 2015 an item on p12 of the magazine stated that nearly 40 000 people had filled in responses to the much vaunted leisure vechicle survey.  This item was headed thanks for your help, and promised summary results would be published in subsequent additions of the magazine and online 

November 2015 issue  nothing.  

December 2015 issue a summary report that is so sanitised that it would make a North Korean censor blush.  Obviously no names mentioned Further more detailed analysis promised in future Issues. 

January 2016 nothing 

February 2016 

March 2016 magazine nothing,

However I did attend a question time meeting at which the audience were assured that it would be published  

April nothing

May nothing

June nothing

July nothing

The August issue of the magazine has just become available online and as far as I can see nothing!

Perhaps I have missed something so please correct me but if I am correct, then the Caravanclub  should explain why the survey has not been published.

Apologise to the 40000 people who wasted their  time filling in the survey   

I realise that breaks  "never apologise never explain" which appears to the Caravan clubs guiding principle in dealing with its members, but maybe they should try shining a light in some dark places.  

Kennine replied on 28/07/2016 21:02

Posted on 28/07/2016 21:02

Normally surveys get buried when the "correct" answers are not obtained.

K

JohnDH replied on 29/07/2016 09:40

Posted on 29/07/2016 09:40

I conduct my own surveys:

Find someone with a new van, ask what they think of it. Of course they tell you its great. I then give the some truth serum, or as my wife puts it, I pour a bottle of wine down their throats, then spend the rest of the evening listening to the moans and groans about dealerships, faults and leaks.

Boff replied on 29/07/2016 10:23

Posted on 29/07/2016 10:23

So do I.

Trouble is you get a binary response either yes or no because I am sure bad manufacturers produce good vans by accident sometimes and good manufacturers, produce bad vans from time to time.  

Trouble is as long as there a perception that each manufacturer is bad as each other then there is no incentive for them to change.  Basically the there will be as many dissatisfied customers of brand A buying brand B next time as there will be owners of brand B buying brand A next time.  You do need a large statistically valid survey to show up the differences.  

What I suspect is the survey had thrown up outliers with very bad quality and service scores. The caravan club have decided to protect these manufacture(s), rather than protecting the interests of its paying members. 

Pure speculation on my part, but nature abhors a vacuum.  

Wildwood replied on 01/08/2016 16:56

Posted on 01/08/2016 16:56

I have to agree the survey seems to have been a complete waste of money given only the vagueist of results have been published. Practical Caravan has carried out three annual surveys and published the results with some pretty bad statistics for some firms. Despite this there seems to be no reduction in their advertising or caravans available to report on so this should not have been a problem.

If you want to know the good, the bad and the average the results from PC look pretty consistent so should be accurate enough.

The clubs continued silence on what must have been an expensive excercise is very bad in my books.

RowenaBCAMC replied on 01/08/2016 19:05

Posted on 01/08/2016 19:05

Firstly thank you to all members who took part in the Leisure Vehicle Survey. The survey gathered a fantastic amount of useful information about our members leisure vehicles. In fact almost 40,000 members responded to the survey covering 30 manufacturers and over 600 ranges. The results will provide great insight for any member wanting to replace their existing leisure vehicle or any new members about to join The Club. As you can imagine this volume of response (more than 7 million pieces of data) requires considerable resource to analyse. In addition to the survey the team have been working on a number of other key projects for The Club and we sincerely apologise for not communicating the results of the survey earlier.  We are looking to give feedback to members on the Leisure Vehicle Survey at the end of the summer.

Simon Todd replied on 01/08/2016 20:55

Posted on 01/08/2016 20:55

Over a year to publish? Really?

It stinks of the survey not being for the benefit of members but for something else and letting us know  the results is just an unwanted hinderance that is continually kicked into the long grass.

Very poor CC

Simon

replied on 01/08/2016 21:41

Posted on 01/08/2016 21:41

Firstly thank you to all members who took part in the Leisure Vehicle Survey. The survey gathered a fantastic amount of useful information about our members leisure vehicles. In fact almost 40,000 members responded to the survey covering 30 manufacturers and over 600 ranges. The results will provide great insight for any member wanting to replace their existing leisure vehicle or any new members about to join The Club. As you can imagine this volume of response (more than 7 million pieces of data) requires considerable resource to analyse. In addition to the survey the team have been working on a number of other key projects for The Club and we sincerely apologise for not communicating the results of the survey earlier.  We are looking to give feedback to members on the Leisure Vehicle Survey at the end of the summer.

ROFL

Boff replied on 01/08/2016 22:19

Posted on 01/08/2016 22:19

Sorry Rowena, I am sure you are only the messenger. 

But when exactly did the Caravan club realise that 40 000 respnses would produce a lot of data?  Its not as simple  as multiplying the number of questions by the number of respondents is it?

Would the other questions that the team have been working on include:

What religion is the Pope

and

Exactly what do bears do in the woods 

Easy T's response sums up my reaction, to well err a T  

 

replied on 02/08/2016 08:17

Posted on 02/08/2016 08:17

Doubt that I would see the resulys anyway as I have not opened a Caravan Club mag in more than 2 years I suspect. 

DEBSC replied on 02/08/2016 09:00

Posted on 02/08/2016 09:00

Not really interested in the result. I was asked for my thoughts/opinion on an Airstream, despite only ever seeing one at a show! I am sure most others were asked about vans they knew nothing about as well, so what good will be the resulting data. Where the questionnaire could have been used as a useful tool, with so many people prepared to talk about their vans and experiences we weren't asked those questions. Won't be doing another one for the CC.

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