Not moving with the times

Del Sandy replied on 21/08/2020 12:37

Posted on 21/08/2020 12:37

This club could be fantastic, if only it was to listen to its members, some reasons below;

1. Very slow website, cannot find a website as slow as this one, even ones you do not have to pay for!

2. Inability to search for fully serviced pitches (perhaps because they do not have many)

3. Being superseded by free forums such as Adults only caravan sites on Facebook

4. Wasting money, why does the club not ask all members if they need a magazine, I would have been happy to have an electronic version, also helping the environment

5. With all my posts asking for reasons for these issues not being addressed and approaching the site directly no action has been taken, or even reasons why they cannot

I have enjoyed the discussions on the site and interestingly my concerns have been covered several times by others. Note the times I go on the website has to be on off peak times due to the slow website.

It is sad that I will not be renewing my membership, as I do not intend to pay for membership where there is no official feedback from the club when issues are raised.

Hopefully I will rejoin when basic issues are sorted out.

Kind Regards

Derek

 

replied on 25/08/2020 17:50

Posted on 25/08/2020 17:38 by Rufs

Wow!!! not a C&CC member so never used their web site, but if all this is true and no reason to doubt it, then it blows a hole in a lot of the gripes on CTsurprised

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Tinwheeler replied on 25/08/2020 17:55

Posted on 25/08/2020 17:20 by PATMAU

For a slow website try the C&CC , not only slow but is like a maze for navigating round. Lots of dead ends before finally reaching your goal and then going up blind alleys to get out again.  Every time you book a site you have to enter your outfit details, every time.  You don't know what you are going to have to pay, until you have entered, outfit, pitch, no. Adults, children, ACR, dates, uncle Tom cobley and all.  And don't get me started on their site search facility.  Compared to them, CAMC is cutting edge tech.

Posted on 25/08/2020 17:55

I’ve been saying similar for years. 

You forgot to mention minimum night booking restrictions which you don’t find out about until you’ve gone through the rigmarole you describe. The restrictions are not consistent across the network or the seasons so you often have little clue in advance of completing the booking process.

Then there are deposits.....

Cornersteady replied on 25/08/2020 17:59

Posted on 25/08/2020 17:38 by peedee

CS, since you asked:

In what way PD is it not changing,

It still thinks one size fits all and charges accordingly. As a result, for those not requiring full fat facilities they are expensive for many especially for short stays which is an increasing requirement due to the growth in motorhome ownership. Families also find sites expensive for what is provided for them.

what you you want to see? 

The pricing structure needs to change to make short stays more viable and more attractive for families. To save you asking how, I would look into the introduction of a tariff for “Quick Stops” for motorhomes. For families stop charging for children of 4 or less under say 13 years.

That growth in membership has been over a few years and as sites are getting fuller they appear to be keeping members?

That is a matter of opinion, the AGM minutes would suggest membership has been fairly static but existing members have been utilising sites more (site nights spent per member has increased)

Anyway you have used club sites this year I recall (if not apologies but certainly in the past year), so you must be happy?

I have only used a Club site for 3 nights out of 26 spent away so far this year. The others have been spent on a mix of CLs and commercial sites and I have been quite happy to do so.

peedee

Posted on 25/08/2020 17:59

interesting answer thanks

It still thinks one size fits all... then those not needing full fat sites need to go elsewhere surely, and the club actually has the better model for short stays it has no minimum number of nights, unlike it has to be said that site you were championing as being better/cheaper than the club. Families find sites expensive? how many have you talked to? or is it just your family?  I haven't talked to any either but all I see on club sites are many many families using them.

The pricing structure needs to change to make short stays more viable and more attractive for families. To save you asking how, I would look into the introduction of a tariff for “Quick Stops” for motorhomes. 

Why so MH can have cheaper places to stay? Again as above the club has no minimum number of nights, the prices are what they are, buy them or don't. But of course many do. Sites are full

Sorry but I really think you want the club to change not for the future but to suit you and give you cheaper prices.

I really don't know what you mean by ? For families stop charging for children of 4 or less under say 13 years. What are you on about? Under fives are free and kids are classed as kids up to being 17? Again the club has the best charges options for kids, many sites have £1 per child, who betters that. Many non club sites treat kids as only you to 14, so a 16 year old on these sites would be charges full price.

 I think your AGM figures are outdated.

replied on 25/08/2020 18:01

Posted on 25/08/2020 17:55 by Tinwheeler

I’ve been saying similar for years. 

You forgot to mention minimum night booking restrictions which you don’t find out about until you’ve gone through the rigmarole you describe. The restrictions are not consistent across the network or the seasons so you often have little clue in advance of completing the booking process.

Then there are deposits.....

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SteveL replied on 25/08/2020 18:01

Posted on 25/08/2020 16:41 by JVB66

It was like that when we started ,but then along came TVs mobile phones and computer games that seems to keep people in their own little world(bubble as is now expected )surprised

Posted on 25/08/2020 18:01

I think that's generalising too far JVB. Even in those pre internet and TV days, the very popular Hi de Hi style holiday would have been my worse nightmare. I think in all times / generations folk will spend their leisure time in lots of different ways. Perhaps just sitting reading a good book.

replied on 25/08/2020 18:02

Posted on 25/08/2020 17:55 by Tinwheeler

I’ve been saying similar for years. 

You forgot to mention minimum night booking restrictions which you don’t find out about until you’ve gone through the rigmarole you describe. The restrictions are not consistent across the network or the seasons so you often have little clue in advance of completing the booking process.

Then there are deposits.....

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Posted on 25/08/2020 17:38 by peedee

CS, since you asked:

In what way PD is it not changing,

It still thinks one size fits all and charges accordingly. As a result, for those not requiring full fat facilities they are expensive for many especially for short stays which is an increasing requirement due to the growth in motorhome ownership. Families also find sites expensive for what is provided for them.

what you you want to see? 

The pricing structure needs to change to make short stays more viable and more attractive for families. To save you asking how, I would look into the introduction of a tariff for “Quick Stops” for motorhomes. For families stop charging for children of 4 or less under say 13 years.

That growth in membership has been over a few years and as sites are getting fuller they appear to be keeping members?

That is a matter of opinion, the AGM minutes would suggest membership has been fairly static but existing members have been utilising sites more (site nights spent per member has increased)

Anyway you have used club sites this year I recall (if not apologies but certainly in the past year), so you must be happy?

I have only used a Club site for 3 nights out of 26 spent away so far this year. The others have been spent on a mix of CLs and commercial sites and I have been quite happy to do so.

peedee

Posted on 25/08/2020 18:08

The pricing structure needs to change to make short stays more viable and more attractive for families. To save you asking how, I would look into the introduction of a tariff for “Quick Stops” for motorhomes. For families stop charging for children of 4 or less under say 13 years. 

Never heard of it Any Links?

Tinwheeler replied on 25/08/2020 18:08

Posted on 25/08/2020 18:01 by

The minimum 2 nights isn't universal is it?

I went quite a way through  the booking system yesterday and was being allowed to book one night.

However I abandoned it in favor of a club site without deposit.

Posted on 25/08/2020 18:08

No it isn't universal, nor is it always 2 nights - it's sometimes more. That very inconsistency causes confusion.

SteveL replied on 25/08/2020 18:18

Posted on 25/08/2020 18:18

We have only done a few bookings so far with the C&CC and haven't yet used a site. However, although a bit clunky, I didn't find the web site or the experience that bad. I would agree that it is difficult to establish the price before you complete a booking, however price is not the primary driver for us, but location. That was the primary reason for joining, to open up more locations now we have a MH and are moving on more frequently.

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